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= Joint [[IAOA]]-[[OOR]]-[[Ontolog]] "[[OntologiesAndStandards|Ontologies and Standards]]" mini-series: session-1 - Tue 2011_10_20 =

Topic: '''Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability ([[OntoIOp]])" Standardization Effort'''

Co-chairs: '''Professor JohnBateman''' (Bremen University) & '''Professor MichaelGruninger''' (University of Toronto)

* '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologiesAndStandards/2011-10-20_ISO-NP-17347_OntoIOp/ Archives]''':
** '''[[ConferenceCall_2011_10_20|Agenda & Proceedings]]'''
** '''[[ConferenceCall_2011_10_20|Abstract]]'''
** '''Prepared presentation material''' can be accessed by clicking on each of the [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologiesAndStandards/2011-10-20_ISO-NP-17347_OntoIOp/ title links] below:
*** '''[ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologiesAndStandards/2011-10-20_ISO-NP-17347_OntoIOp/Ontologies-and-Standards_session-01-opening--MichaelGruninger-JohnBateman_20111020.pdf 0-Chair] ] . [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologiesAndStandards/2011-10-20_ISO-NP-17347_OntoIOp/ISOTC37_KRRs--SueEllenWright_20111020.pdf 1-Wright] ] . [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologiesAndStandards/2011-10-20_ISO-NP-17347_OntoIOp/OntoIOp--TillMossakowski-OliverKutz-ChristophLange_20111020.pdf 2-Mossakowski-Kutz-Lange] ]'''
** '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologiesAndStandards/2011-10-20_ISO-NP-17347_OntoIOp/ontologies-n-standards-01_ISO-NP-17347-OntoIOp_20111020b.mp3 audio recording of the session]''' [ 1:25:12 ; mp3 ; 9.75MB ]
** '''[[ConferenceCall_2011_10_20|Transcript of the online chat session]]''' during the panel discussion
** Other '''[[ConferenceCall_2011_10_20|Resources]]'''

== Abstract ==

:'''This is the kick-off session of the Joint [[IAOA]]-[[OOR]]-[[Ontolog]] "[[OntologiesAndStandards|Ontologies and Standards]]" mini-series, co-championed by Professor [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]] (University of Toronto) and Professor [[JohnBateman|John Bateman]] (Bremen University), who among their other roles, co-chair the Standardization Coordination Committee of [[IAOA]].'''

:'''[[OntoIOp]] (ISO NP 17347) is a new standards development project that is designed to achieve ontology integration and interoperability. It proposes the Distributed Ontology Language (DOL) for distributed knowledge representation across multiple ontologies, particularly ontologies that have been formalized in different ontology languages.
In particular, it supports heterogeneous ontologies that combine parts written in different languages; links between distributed and heterogeneous ontologies and ontology modules; annotation and documentation of ontologies, links between ontologies, entities, and axioms; and translations between different ontology languages. This standard is being developed by ISO/TC37/SC3/WG3.'''

:'''An overview and the roadmap for the [[OntoIOp]] project will be presented. This session will provide an opportunity for work group members and the community to discuss [[OntoIOp]]'s relationships to other related standards, as well as to other ontology languages and initiatives. '''

== Agenda & Proceedings ==

'''Session Topic: Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "[[OntoIOp]]"'''

* '''Session Format & Agenda:''' this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call:
** 1. Opening Remarks - co-chairs ... ([[ConferenceCall_2011_10_20|get slides]])
** 2. Briefing from the ISO TC37 Chair - [[SueEllenWright]]
** 3. Briefings on the ISO/WD 17347 - [[ChristophLange|Christoph Lange]]
** 4. Q & A and open discussion - All (~30 min.) ... ([[ConferenceCall_2011_10_20|see process]])
** 5. Conclusion / Follow-up / Announcement - co-chairs

=== Transcript of the online chat during the session ===

see raw transcript [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologiesAndStandards/2011-10-20_ISO-NP-17347_OntoIOp/ontolog_chat-transcript_unedited_20111020a.txt here].

(for better clarity, the version below is a [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologiesAndStandards/2011-10-20_ISO-NP-17347_OntoIOp/ontolog_chat-transcript_edited_20111020b.txt re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript].)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin of chat session --

[09:27] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Welcome to the

= Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series: session-1 - Tue 2011_10_20 =

Topic: Introducing the ISO/WD 17347 "[[OntoIOp]]"

Co-chairs: Professor [[JohnBateman|John Bateman]] (Bremen University) & Professor [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]] (University of

Toronto)

Goto session page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_10_20

Mute / Unmute: moderator will mute everyone; raise your hand (with "hand button" at lower right)

"*3" to unmute yourself; "*2" to go back into mute after you speak

== Proceedings: ==

anonymous morphed into [[ChristopherSpottiswoode|Christopher Spottiswoode]]

[[ChristophLange|Christoph Lange]]: hi, this is ChristophLange. [[OliverKutz|Oliver Kutz]] and [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]] are with me; we will use

one phone together, but separate chats

anonymous morphed into [[TillMossakowski|Till Mossakowski]]

[[ChristophLange|Christoph Lange]]: i'm back in the phone conf

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Michael ... please speak up

[[ChristopherSpottiswoode|Christopher Spottiswoode]]: I'm here but can't hear anyone.

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @ChristopherSpottiswoode - the session has just started, can you hear us yet?

anonymous morphed into [[TimBoland|Tim Boland]]

anonymous morphed into [[FabianNeuhaus|Fabian Neuhaus]]

[[ChristopherSpottiswoode|Christopher Spottiswoode]]: @PeterYim: I have just seen your question... Yes all's fine, thanks!

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @ChristophLange - ref. your comment on access to working draft(s) ... please elaborate on

how that would work, for onotio-wg members, and the wider ontology community

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @ChristophLange - don't worry about answering now, I am (and encouraged for others too)

just capturing question while you are presenting, so we can address them later, during the Q&A and

discussion segment

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: [action] - to get process in place to allow more people to contribute and provide feedback

during the working draft phase

[[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: question for later, re slide 7: where would SWRL (and the other rule formalisms) be

located on the graphic in slide 7?

[[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: related to it, are there plans underway to include them as conforming logics

[[TillMossakowski|Till Mossakowski]]: actually, we have not looked closer into rule formalism yet, but this is the next

thing we want to do

[[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: @AliHashemi: SWRL with monotonic semantics is a subset of FOL. Technically, SWRL

is an extension of OWL (i.e. it specifies that SWRL atoms are equivalent to OWL classes and roles).

[[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: (well same question for RIF which contains extra-logical bits)

[[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: @AliHashemi: Can you give additional examples of "extra-logical bits"?

[[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: I should be clear by what I mean by "extra-logic" - take the URD dialect for example

[[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: ( http://c4i.gmu.edu/ursw/2008/papers/URSW2008_F9_ZhaoBoley.pdf )

[[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: http://www.w3.org/Submission/SWRL/

[[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/RIF_Working_Group

[[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: http://www.w3.org/TR/wsdl

[[MatthewWest|Matthew West]]: I'm afraid I have to leave. interesting session.

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: thank you for coming, Matthew ... ttyl

[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: I have to go now - thanks for great presentations and I'll be following this work with

interest.

[[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: [regarding the ISO process -ed.] No comment at this point.

[[ChristophLange|Christoph Lange]]: (for those on [ontoiop-wg]) link to Michael's examples:

http://interop.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Ontologies/

[[ChristophLange|Christoph Lange]]: (for those on [ontoiop-wg]) link to the e-mail thread discussing these examples:

http://interop.cim3.net/forum/ontoiop-wg/2011-10/msg00086.html

[[JoelBender|Joel Bender]]: @SteveRay: are you involved in this effort?

[[JoelBender|Joel Bender]]: I am involved in ASHRAE/NEMA SPC 201P, under the auspices of NIST, developing a model

for information transfer between facilities and a national smart grid. One of the stickier problems

is the mapping of "space", "time", "measure" - specifically the terminology as published by NOAA

([[OpenGIS]]), WS-Calendar (OASIS), IEC 61850, and semantic sensor networks (W3C), and units of measure

(OASIS - eventually). Any help out of DOL would be appreciated!

[[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: My team has translated the entire ASHRAE SPC201P into OWL and is grinding through it,

looking for overlaps, duplications, inconsistencies.

[[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: @MichaelGruninger - Interested in who is leading the IDIOM project.

[[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: @SteveRay - David Price, David Leal, and Allison Barnard Feeney are actually the

editors of the IDIOM document that I have.

[[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: @MichaelGruninger - Excellent! Thanks.

[[JoelBender|Joel Bender]]: Here is another project, which is more taxonomy rather than ontology,

http://project-haystack.org/ - I don't think the information is available in a formal notation

[[ChristophLange|Christoph Lange]]: @JoelBender: Could you also provide some links to the space/time/measure

terminologies/ontologies?

[[TerryLongstreth|Terry Longstreth]]: Is Sue Ellen's presentation on the wiki yet?

[[JohnBateman|John Bateman]]: @Terry: the slides are there ...

(marked "[1-Wright]" under: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_10_20#nid2Y8I)

[[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: join us at the next session of this "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series -

developing details at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_11_03

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Great session!

[[JoelBender|Joel Bender]]: Thank you (good to "see" you again Peter)

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @Joel - yes, glad you are here!

[11:12] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: - session ended: 11:11am PDT

-- end of chat session --

* Further Question & Remarks (from the wider community) - please post them to the [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/ ontolog-forum] ] mailing list
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** experts desiring to join this working group (ISO/TC37/SC3/WG3) should contact their ISO country representative for details.

=== Resources ===

* [[OntoIOp]] open community wiki homepage - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntoIOp
* ISO official site for this project : http://bit.ly/ISO-TC37-SC3-OntoIOp

== Audio Recording of this Session ==

* To download the [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologiesAndStandards/2011-10-20_ISO-NP-17347_OntoIOp/ontologies-n-standards-01_ISO-NP-17347-OntoIOp_20111020b.mp3 audio recording of the session], click '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologiesAndStandards/2011-10-20_ISO-NP-17347_OntoIOp/ontologies-n-standards-01_ISO-NP-17347-OntoIOp_20111020b.mp3 here]'''
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== Attendees ==

* Attended:
** [[JohnBateman|John Bateman]] (co-chair)
** [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]] (co-chair)
** [[SueEllenWright]] ''(presenting in absentia)''
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]
** [[TerryLongstreth|Terry Longstreth]]
** Kevin Tyson (EDM Council; JP Morgan Chase)
** [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]
** [[TillMossakowski|Till Mossakowski]]
** [[ChristophLange|Christoph Lange]]
** [[OliverKutz|Oliver Kutz]]
** [[ChristopherSpottiswoode|Christopher Spottiswoode]]
** [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]
** [[MatthewWest|Matthew West]]
** [[PavithraKenjige|Pavithra Kenjige]]
** [[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]
** [[JoelBender|Joel Bender]]
** [[TimBoland|Tim Boland]]
** [[GaryBergCross]]
** [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]
** [[FabianNeuhaus|Fabian Neuhaus]]
** [[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]
** [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]

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** [[AdamMontville|Adam Montville]]
*
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* Regrets:
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]
** [[MariCarmenSuarezFigueroa]] ''(due to an exam at University)''

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