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= [[OntologySummit2011|Ontology Summit 2011]] review and follow-up action planning ("postmortem") session - Thu 19-May-2011 =

* Chair: '''Dr. SteveRay''' and '''Dr. NicolaGuarino'''

* [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/2011-05-19_OntologySummit2011_follow-up/ Archive]:
** '''[[ConferenceCall_2011_05_19|Abstract]]'''
** '''[[ConferenceCall_2011_05_19|Agenda & Proceedings]]'''
** '''Prepared presentation material''' can be accessed by clicking on the [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/2011-05-19_OntologySummit2011_follow-up/ title link(s)] below:
*** '''[ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/2011-05-19_OntologySummit2011_follow-up/OntologySummit2011-Postmortem-Introduction--SteveRay_20110519.pdf 0-Chair] ] . [ 1-Ray (cont'd) ] . [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/2011-05-19_OntologySummit2011_follow-up/OntologyUsageCatalog--MichaelUschold_20110519.pdf 2-Uschold] ] . [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/2011-05-19_OntologySummit2011_follow-up/Visibility-and-Accessibility--AliHashemi_20110519.pdf 3-Hashemi] ]'''
** '''[ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/2011-05-19_OntologySummit2011_follow-up/OntologySummit2011_postmortem_20110519b.mp3 audio recording of the session] ]''' ( 1:23:30 ; mp3 ; 9.6MB )
** '''[ [[ConferenceCall_2011_05_19|Transcript of the online chat session]] ]''' during the panel discussion
** Other '''[[ConferenceCall_2011_05_19|Resources]]'''

=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details ===

* Date: '''Thursday, 19-May-2011'''
* Start Time: 9:30am PDT / 12:30pm EDT / 6:30pm CEST / 5:30pm BST / 16:30 UTC
** see [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=5&day=19&year=2011&hour=9&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 world clock] for other time zones
* Expected Call Duration: ~1.5 Hours
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** people behind corporate firewalls may have difficulty accessing this. If that is the case, please download the '''[[ConferenceCall_2011_05_19|slides above]]''' and running them locally. The speaker(s) will prompt you to advance the slides during the talk.

* '''Discussions and Q & A:'''
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** You can '''type in your questions or comments through the browser''' based [[ConferenceCall_2005_09_01|chat session]] by:
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*** instructions: once you got access to the page, click on the "settings" button, and identify yourself (by modifying the Name field). You can indicate that you want to ask a question verbally by clicking on the "hand" button, and wait for the moderator to call on you; or, type and send your question into the chat window at the bottom of the screen.
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** thanks to the soaphub.org folks, one can now use a jabber/xmpp client (e.g. gtalk) to join this chatroom. Just add the room as a buddy - (in our case here) ontolog_20110519@soaphub.org ... Handy for mobile devices!

* Please review our Virtual Session Tips and Ground Rules - see: [[VirtualSpeakerSessionTips]]

* '''RSVP''' ''to [mailto:peter.yim@cim3.com peter.yim@cim3.com] appreciated.''

* This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_05_19

* Please note that this session will be recorded, and the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content to our community membership and the public at-large under [[WikiHomePage#Intellectual_Property_Rights_.28IPR.29_Policy|our prevailing open IPR policy]].

== Attendees ==

* Attended:
** [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] (co-chair)
** Nicola Guarino (co-chair)
** [[MichaelUschold|Michael Uschold]]
** [[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]
** [[HasanSayani|Hasan Sayani]]
** [[JerrySmith|Jerry Smith]]
** [[PeteNielsen|Pete Nielsen]]
** [[MatthewWest|Matthew West]]
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]
** [[TerryLongstreth|Terry Longstreth]]
** [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]
** [[YuriyMilov|Yuriy Milov]]
** [[FabianNeuhaus|Fabian Neuhaus]]
** [[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]

* Expecting:
*
** ''... if you are coming to the session, please add your name above (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above; or e-mail <peter.yim@cim3.com> so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation. ...''

* Regrets:
** [[TimWilson|Tim Wilson]]
** ...

=== Resources ===

* '''OntologySummit'''
** '''OntologySummit2011''' - Homepage for Ontology Summit 2011
*** [[OntologySummit2011_Symposium]]
*** [[OntologySummit2011_Communique]]
*** [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/2011-05-19_OntologySummit2011_follow-up/OntologySummit2011_statistics--PeterYim_20110518.pdf Ontology Summit 2011 in numbers]
** proceedings from [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2011/GettingOrganized#nid2RTW this year's Summit organizing committee postmortem session 2011.05.13]
** proceedings from [[ConferenceCall_2010_04_15|last year's Summit postmortem session 2010.04.15]]

== Abstracts ==

* Session Topic: "'''OntologySummit2011 (postmortem) review and follow-up action planning'''"

:'''The goal of this session is to revisit the last Ontology Summit and plan ahead for the future. We will discuss what worked and what can be improved during the 3~4 months of [[OntologySummit2011|Ontology Summit 2011]], and get ideas on how to make next year's Ontology Summit even better. This meeting gives us an opportunity to develop some plans and initiatives for action that will move what we have achieved beyond the 3-month Summit itself. Further, this meeting is also an opportunity to suggest topics and themes for next year's Ontology Summit.'''

== Agenda Ideas ==

* Review what worked and what didn't this year
* Good ideas, suggestions and possible action that arose
* Follow-up Action planning
** Documenting [[OntologySummit2011|Ontology Summit 2011]]
** Ongoing collection of Applications Cases and value they bring
** Getting the word out
* Suggestions (e.g. topics and themes) for Ontology Summit 2012
* ... ''(please insert below, anything else you may suggest)''

== Agenda & Proceedings ==

* '''Session Format & Agenda:''' this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call:
** 1. Opening - co-chairs: [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] & Nicola Guarino ... [ [[ConferenceCall_2011_05_19|slides]] ]
** 2. Open discussion: "How did it go? what worked? what needs improvement? how can we take this further?" - All (~30 min.) ... please refer to [[ConferenceCall_2011_05_19|process above]]
** 3. Some follow-up action plans ... Steveray, [[MichaelUschold|Michael Uschold]], [[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]] (5 min. each) ... [ [[ConferenceCall_2011_05_19|slides]] ]
** 4. Open discussion: ideas and themes for Ontology Summit 2012 - All (~20 min.) ... please refer to [[ConferenceCall_2011_05_19|process above]]
** 5. Once again ... a solicitation to endorse the Communique if you haven't already done so
*** see: [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-invitation/2011-04/msg00004.html open invitation] & [[OntologySummit2011_Communique]]
** 6. Conclusion / Follow-up - co-chairs: [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] & Nicola Guarino

=== Transcript of the online chat during the session ===

see raw transcript [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/2011-05-19_OntologySummit2011_follow-up/chat-transcript_unedited_20110519a.txt here].

(for better clarity, the version below is a [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/2011-05-19_OntologySummit2011_follow-up/chat-transcript_edited_20110519b.txt re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript].)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin of chat session --

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Welcome to the

[[OntologySummit2011|Ontology Summit 2011]] review and follow-up action planning ("postmortem") session - Thu 19-May-2011

* Chair: Dr. [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] and Dr. Nicola Guarino

Please refer to details on session page at:

http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_05_19

.

anonymous morphed into vnc2

Ali Hashemi: Does vnc work for anyone?

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @Ali - no ... you will have to call out the advance, and I will advance the slides for you

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: session starts ... How did [[OntologySummit2011|Ontology Summit 2011]] go?

[[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: Matthew: Went well - maturity of how participants approached the topic

Michael Uschold: Was it anyone's job to get media coverage? IF not, that is the explanation.

anonymous morphed into [[FabianNeuhaus|Fabian Neuhaus]]

[[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: In the future, need a publicity chair (Uschold, Obrst)

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: +1 on Gruninger's point about the panel at the Symposium - I agree it went real well and

provided a good range of perspectives

[[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: Gruninger: could have done better on the challenge problems

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @Steve - vnc still working properly here

[[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: VNC is back for me - it hiccuped and required me to log in again.

[[FabianNeuhaus|Fabian Neuhaus]]: I am basking

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: presentations continued - [ 1-Ray ] (slide#8 now)

[[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: Michael: Can't help observing that we're really in an Epilogue, rather than a Prologue as

noted on your slide. (Shocking misuse of a term for an ontologist!

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[MichaelUschold|Michael Uschold]] presenting == [ 2-Uschold ]

[[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: I think that Michael's Ontology Usage Catalog could also become part of the Open Ontology

Repository, at some point, since the points on his slide 2 are largely also addressed by the OOR.

[[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: Michael: What is the relationship between your work and the Open Ontology Repository?

[[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]: Sorry I'm late folks-conflicting telecon, about an emergency management ontology.

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Nicola Guarino: in favor of Michael's proposal ... cataloging is good, but qualifying it as

"exemplary" could be dangerous

[[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: With respect to the summit, it is also an issue of how suitable the example ontology is

for making a case.

The OOR encompasses a broader range of ontologies

Nicola Guarino: According to the authors, "An exemplary ontology is one that can serve as a model

that can be imitated or leveraged by ontology engineers in the future. The most fundamental property

of an exemplary ontology is being well designed for its intended purpose". This is risky.

[[MichaelUschold|Michael Uschold]]: Agree with Nicola about having a way to enter things into a repository, without

having to commit to it being exemplary. I agree. The exemplary ontology catalog is just an example

of a semantic-form based catalog. An ontology usage framework could use a similar approach. Whether

or not we choose to rate the quality of ontology uses is a discussion about just one attribute of

the ontology usage, not a big issue per se.

[[MatthewWest|Matthew West]]: Apologies, but I have to leave now.

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: bye, Matthew

[[MichaelUschold|Michael Uschold]]: @Nicola: can you comment on the publication of ontology usages in AOJ (the "Applied

Ontology" Journal) according to some kind of standard format?

[[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]: I'll give the standing use-case library some thought. I promised other groups that I

would catch up on work that took a lower priority before the summit, so I can't commit now, but I

may commit after those projects are up to date.

[[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Maybe AOJ could institute a kind of New Ontologies of Interest section? Brief descriptions

of ontologies and their use cases?

Nicola Guarino: @Michael: definitely we are open to publish ontology usages on the AOJ, but honestly

I have no idea of the proper format (there was some discussion with [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]] at the summit)

[[MichaelUschold|Michael Uschold]]: I could not agree more with [[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]] that there needs to be a better way to show

off the results of our work. I do not like sending people to our working wiki site.

Nicola Guarino: @Ali: I definetly support the idea of a nice (non wiki-based) website, certainly it

would be great to point at it from the IAOA.org web site (and from MANY different places).

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == Brainstorm on possible theme for next year's Ontology Summit ==

[[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Jumping ahead a bit, Potential Topics for Ontology Summit 2012: 1) Ontology Best

Practices, Methodologies, Evaluation, 2) Ontology Self-Correction, Automated Growth, Ontology

Learning. To some extent both of these were mentioned at the Symposium.

Nicola Guarino: (of course we need some way of quality evaluation, of course)

[[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]: Thought for next year's Summit: How do we make people aware of ontology by saying "Did

you know that YOU have an ontology?

[[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]: The point is showing how there are implicit ontologies everywhere, and making people

aware of it. What are the consequences of willy nilly ontological practices?

[[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]: How to put that into a a Summit Theme is a good question.

[[MichaelUschold|Michael Uschold]]: I propose "Ontology Engineering best practice"

[[MichaelUschold|Michael Uschold]]: I think that Ontology best practice is too big.

[[MichaelUschold|Michael Uschold]]: I think ontology learning is too small a topic, very important, but represents small

part of the community

[[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Rather than ontology learning the topic can be broadened to ontology acquisition

e.g. extracting ontologies from unstructured knowledge

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: it was suggested before (in previous years) the theme of "Ontology and Software

Engineering" - and create a platform to pull together these two communities

[[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: @Peter: or..."Ontology and Systems Engineering"

[[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Perhaps related to "Ontology and Software / Systems Engineering" is "Developing Ontology

Applications".

[[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]: "Solving Problems with Ontology"?

[[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Challenge Problems for Ontology Design and Applications

[[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: I agree that Evaluation is a potentially big topic, as that NIST workshop made clear: many

approaches.

[[FabianNeuhaus|Fabian Neuhaus]]: I agree with Nicola, when I said "Best Practices" I should have said "Best Practices

& Methodologies"

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: a possible theme that came across (when Matthew and I were doing "Strategies") is "Making

the Case for Ontology Research"

Nicola Guarino: @Peter: BTW, "Making the case for ontology research" is a GREAT topic, although

perhaps less popular than best practices & methodology

Nicola Guarino: Also: research challenges for ontologies

[[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: Ontologies as Part of Knowledge Systems (how it fits into other technologies)

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: +1 on Ali's "Ontologies as Part of Knowledge Systems"

[[YuriyMilov|Yuriy Milov]]: alternatives ... "challenges for ontologies" I agreed

[[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]: Similar to Best Practices and Software Engineering, and building on this year's topic, I

would suggest something along the lines of "What is Ontology Good For? it breaks down into Tracks

for things like performance, collateral benefits, etc.

[[FabianNeuhaus|Fabian Neuhaus]]: For the record, I suggested to distinguish "Ontology Best Practices, Methodologies"

and "Evaluation of Ontologies" as separate topics

[[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: Ontology acquisition might also resonate broadly, as it would help communicate how

people who didn't realize they could use ontologies, could.

[[TerryLongstreth|Terry Longstreth]]: Back to its roots: Ontology usage for Philosophy and the Humanities

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Nicola / Steve: ask people to continue to contribute ideas (brainstorm on topics) -

conversation can and should continue on the [ontology-summit] list

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Home page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit

[[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Adios!

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Steve suggest adding a link on that page to a place where people can suggest "future

themes"

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: sure ... send us your suggestions here -

http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit/Suggestions

Nicola Guarino: @MichaelUschold: once the communique is ready (with endorsement), submit it to

Applied Ontology so we can publish it soon

[[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: Thank you all.

[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: -- session ended: 11:00am PDT --

-- end of chat session --

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== Audio Recording of this Session ==

* To download the [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/2011-05-19_OntologySummit2011_follow-up/OntologySummit2011_postmortem_20110519b.mp3 audio recording of the session], click '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/2011-05-19_OntologySummit2011_follow-up/OntologySummit2011_postmortem_20110519b.mp3 here]'''
** the playback of the audio files require the proper setup, and an MP3 compatible player on your computer.
* Conference Date and Time: 19-May-2011 10:36am ~ 11:00am Pacific Daylight Time
* Duration of Recording: 1 Hour 23.5 Minutes
* Recording File Size: 9.56 MB (in mp3 format)

* suggestion: its best that you listen to the session while having the [[ConferenceCall_2011_05_19|presentation]] opened in front of you. You'll be prompted to advance slides by the speaker.
* Take a look, also, at the rich body of knowledge that this community has built together, over the years, by going through the [[WikiHomePage|archives of noteworthy past Ontolog events.]] (References on how to subscribe to our podcast can also be found there.)

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