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= [ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-09-15 =

=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details ===

* Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-09-15

* Agenda Comments:
** ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
** please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|[[WebDAV]]] upload] prior to the meeting
** VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
*** view-only password: "ontolog"
*** view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
** Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_09_15
* Date: Thursday, Sep. 15, 2005
* Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=9&day=15&year=2005&hour=10&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]
* Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
* Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
* Participant Access Code: "686564#"

=== Attendees ===

* Attended:
** [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]]
** EMichaelMaximilien

* Expecting:
** [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]]
** EMichaelMaximilien
** ''...(add your name here)...''

* Regrets:
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]
** [[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]] (will try to come, but likely not be able to)
** [[MitchRinger|Mitch Ringer]]
** [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]]
** [[BillMcCarthy]]

=== Agenda Ideas ===

== Agenda & Proceedings ==

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda

* [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]] took the chair and welcomed everyone.

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes

* Kurt Conrad volunteered

3) Regular agenda suspended with only two participants

* EMichaelMaximilien trying to recruit some OWL-S experts for 2005.10.20 discussion.

Meeting ajourned at 10:51 PST.

!!!! Remainder of Suspended Agenda

3) Roll-call of participants

* see [[ConferenceCall_2005_09_15|above]]

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)

* Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
** member regular meeting
** invited speaker session
** scheduled discussion
** project review
** workshop / work session
** planning

* Scheduled Ontolog Events
** Fri Sep. 23, 2005 - [[JonBosak|Jon Bosak]] - on "Governance in the Development of an OASIS Standard for Business Documents" - Joint session with Susan's Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 at NSF - see: ConferenceCall_2005_09_23 - confirmed (KurtConrad / [[SusanTurnbull|Susan Turnbull]] / PeterYim)
*** Ontolog members should note that this replaces our regular Thursday Sep. 22 meeting (i.e. '''no 9/22/05 call''')
** Thu Oct. 13 2005 - [[BarrySmith|Barry Smith]] - "How to Do Things with Paper: The Ontology of Documents and the Technologies of Identification" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_13 - confirmed ([[BillMcCarthy]])
** Thu Oct. 20 2005 discussion - Moderator: [[NicolasRouquette|Nicolas Rouquette]] - subject: Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard - see: [[ConferenceCall_2005_10_20/Prep]]
*** the original 10/27 date conflicts with the NCOR Inaugural Meeting, we are rescheduling this to Thu Oct. 20, 2005
*** EMichaelMaximilien will join Nicolas in organizing this event
*** [[NicolasRouquette|Nicolas Rouquette]], JohnDomingue, [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]] and EMichaelMaximilien are working together to prepare for it
* Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months
** Candidate Nov. 2005 session(s) and beyond -
*** John Sowa (suggested by [[BillMcCarthy]])
*** [[DougLenat|Doug Lenat]] on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)
*** Nicola Guarino on [[DOLCE]], possibly also [[BillAndersen|Bill Andersen]] or [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]] (suggested by [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] & PatCassidy)
*** LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
*** [[SimonBuckinghamShum]] of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2004-12/msg00014.html#nid01 post] from [[ScottLHolmes]] & PeterYim's [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2004-12/msg00016.html#nid04 reponse])
*** [[JimSpohrer|Jim Spohrer]] from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion)
** other suggestions:
*** Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group
*** Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
*** Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project
**** Professor Dogac's work has also been previous [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NhinRfi/ConferenceCall_2005_15_11#nid9DI recommended by] [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ
*** Peter also suggested that we should invite [http://informatik.uibk.ac.at/~dieter/ Dieter Fensel] to talk to us some time
*** Rex / Peter: XMDR - [[Bargmeyer|Bruce Bargmeyer]] or someone from his XMDR team
*** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]]: [[PatHayes|Pat Hayes]], [[DeborahMcGuinness]]
*** To be brought up for discussion today:
**** [[ChrisMenzel|Chris Menzel]]: [[BillAndersen|Bill Andersen]]
**** [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] / Mark Musen / [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)
**** [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] / [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: RoyRoebuck
**** [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]]: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html
**** [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]]: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C
**** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (new!): [[ChrisMenzel|Chris Menzel]] some time early 2006 (on some of the work he is doing at Boeing)
*** Peter: since we have such a great (and huge) list of candidates now, maybe we should put a process together to find out who are among the top speakers the community wants to hear and talk to
**** suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa

* Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates:
** Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
** [[NicolasRouquette|Nicolas Rouquette]] -- other topics lined up?
** a panel with speaker representating: [[SUMO]], OpenCyc Upper Ontology, [[DOLCE]], ... (suggested by PeterYim)
*** possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE
** Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion
** Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
** we will not schedule a technical discussion in Sep. 2005
** candidates for November, 2005
*** Rex: propose "Emergency Response"
*** Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.
*** Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion
*** Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)
**** Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.
*** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"
**** candidate panelists: [[Bargmeyer|Bruce Bargmeyer]], [[MarkCrawford|Mark Crawford]], [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]], [[AdamPease|Adam Pease]], [[MikeDaconta|Mike Daconta]], [[JimHendler|Jim Hendler]], [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] (moderator?)
**** maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?
*** [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]]: "Ontological and Semantic Implementation Panel" - some time in the future - Duane will start a page in preparation on it
** 2005.09.01: EMichaelMaximilien: suggest we use some sort of IM tool (or other real time signaling) so that the moderator could know who has a question.
*** Duane suggested this tool by Doug Davis of IBM - (will post to the forum) - try http://soaphub.homeip.net:8080/conf/room/ontolog
**** Alll present agreed that this is really cool! - we'll start using it at the next discussion session

* Upcoming Events of interest
** Sep. 14, 2005 - 2nd DRM Public Forum (Washington DC) (Mark & Peter will be presenting their SMI/CIM3 Public Collaborative Ontology Development Server)
*** Peter to post link to the session
** Sep. 12~16, 2005 - UN/CEFACT Forum - (Lyon, France) (Anders, Bill, Duane)
** OASIS ebXML registry-repository webinar - Sep. 15, 2005 - see: http://www.oasis-open.org/events/webinars/webinars.php
** Sep. 23, 12005 - Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 (at NSF) - featuring the [[JonBosak|Jon Bosak]] joint-program with Ontolog; RexBrook et al. also presenting.
** Sep. 30, 2005 - Esther Dyson's "Personal Health Conference" in New York City
** National Center for Ontological Research (NCOR) Opening - Oct. 27, 2005 (Buffalo, NY) - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00000.html
*** wants to know if call-in is supported

* [[EdDodds|Ed Dodds]] / [[BobSmith|Bob Smith]]: Semantic Technology Conference in San Jose has a C4P due September 12 for March 2006
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: since this is more a "commercial" activity -- educating the public nonetheless, which Ontolog definitely supports -- encouraging Ontolog members to participate "on their own" (and using Ontolog material where they feel appropriate) would probably be more appropriate than billing this as an "Ontolog activity".

* Duane: call for paper - http://www.ift.ulaval.ca/%7Ekone/SWIG06/CSWWS2006-blog.htm
** Canadian Semantic Web Working Symposium - Jun. 6 2006 - Quebec City, Canada
** submission due Jan. 1, 2006

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues

6) Follow-ups from previous calls

* post-mortem on the ConferenceCall_2005_09_08 ElisaKendall's invited speaker session
** what worked well
** what could be improved
** ideas for the future

* possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by MikeDaconta) [attn: DuaneNickull]
** Duane: I brought the Ontolog comments back to UDEF ... it was well received ... help them focus their value proposition
** Duane will try to organize a conference with the parties cconcerned
*** Kurt: also help us hone our ability to effectively engage the standards group
** Peter to e-mail the Ontolog comments to [[PatCassidy|Pat Cassidy]] or anyone else who would be interested

* Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on [[RegularConferenceCall]] scheduling

7) Current Project Status Report

* Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work
** Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)
** Formalization issues
** UBL Liaison update
** [CCT-Rep] status report

* Status of Protege-KIF project work

* status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
** representation and paper submission to FCW Government Health IT Conference - Nov. 17~18, 2005, Washington, D.C.

* UBL liaison report

* SICoP liaison report

* Planning team report

* AHIC candidate nomination status
** Unfortunately, our nominee did not make it onto the list of advisors selected for the AHIC commission, which was officially announced on "HHS News" released Sep. 13, 2005. See: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//health-ont/2005-09/msg00025.html   

8) project work session / discussion

9) New project proposals

10) Sponsorship and funding

11) Other business

12) Next meeting date and adjourn

* regular call adjourned 10:51 am PDT
* next call will be on Fri 2005-09-23 starting at 10:30 am PDT
** that will be the Ontolog-CEW Joint Invited Speaker session featuring [[JonBosak|Jon Bosak]] on: "Governance in the Development of an OASIS Standard for Business Documents."
** See: ConferenceCall_2005_09_23
** Once again, this is going to be on a Friday (and not on our regular Thursday time slot.) There will be NO CALL on next thursday.

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minutes captured in real time on this wiki by [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]] / 2005.09.15-10:52 am PDT

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