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= [ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-07-21 =

=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details ===

* Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-07-21

* Agenda Comments:
** ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
** please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|[[WebDAV]]] upload] prior to the meeting
** VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
*** view-only password: "ontolog"
*** view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
** Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_07_21
* Date: Thursday, Jul. 21, 2005
* Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=7&day=21&year=2005&hour=10&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]
* Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
* Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
* Participant Access Code: "686564#"

=== Attendees ===

* Attended:
** [[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]
** [[BobSmith|Bob Smith]]
** [[BillMcCarthy]]
** [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]]
** [[AndersTell|Anders Tell]]

* Expecting:
** [[MonicaMartin|Monica Martin]]
** ''...(add your name here)...''

* Regrets:
** [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] (see input on meeting time [[ConferenceCall_2005_07_21|below]])
** [[PaulKoch|Paul Koch]]
** [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]]
** [[JamesDouma|James Douma]]

=== Agenda Ideas ===

== Agenda & Proceedings ==

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda

* [[BobSmith|Bob Smith]] took the chair and welcomed everyone.

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes

* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] volunteered

3) Roll-call of participants

* see [[ConferenceCall_2005_07_21|above]]

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)

* Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
** member regular meeting
** invited speaker session
** scheduled discussion
** project review
** workshop / work session
** planning

* Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months
** August 11, 2005 - [[JimHendler|Jim Hendler]] from the University of Maryland will be doing a "Semantic Web Q & A" with the Ontolog community - see: ConferenceCall_2005_08_11
** Candidate Sep. 2005 session(s) - we could probably do either one or both:
*** Sep. 8 (or day within that week) -- candidates - [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]] (Peter), [[BarrySmith|Barry Smith]] (Bill) (probably for Oct.2005 too)
*** [[JonBosak|Jon Bosak]] of Sun on OASIS Process - suggested (KurtConrad / SusanTurnbull) at our 2005.03.03 Planning Session - Susan: the 2005.09.23 CEW on implication on governance ... would be ideal. [Kurt will follow up with Jon and Susan]
**** possibility of this rolling into a joint SICoP or CEW-multiple [[CoP]] Best Practice event (suggested: [[SusanTurnbull|Susan Turnbull]] / 2005.03.03)
**** SusanTurnbull/2005.07.20: draft title for Sept. 23, 2005 (Friday) Collaborative Expedition Workshop is: "Governance and Procurement Readiness Challenges in Future Services Oriented Architecture: Leveraging the Data Reference Model"
**** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / [[SusanTurnbull|Susan Turnbull]]: let's aim at doing a 2-hour joint CEW-Ontolog session on Fri 2005.09.23 1:30~3:30pm EDT / 10:30am~12:30pm PDT
***** Peter will follow-up with Kurt
*** [[BillMcCarthy]] suggested John Sowa (try, either Sep. 1 or 6, 2005) - Bill will write John about this
**** Bill: haven't started to contact John yet; maybe we could try [[BarrySmith|Barry Smith]] before John
** future candidates speakers:
*** [[DougLenat|Doug Lenat]] on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)
*** Nicola Guarino on [[DOLCE]], possibly also [[BillAndersen|Bill Andersen]] or [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]] (suggested by [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] & PatCassidy)
*** LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
*** [[SimonBuckinghamShum]] of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2004-12/msg00014.html#nid01 post] from [[ScottLHolmes]] & PeterYim's [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2004-12/msg00016.html#nid04 reponse])
** other suggestions:
*** a panel with speaker representating: [[SUMO]], OpenCyc Upper Ontology, [[DOLCE]], ... (suggested by PeterYim)
**** possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE
*** Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group
**** Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
*** [[JimSpohrer|Jim Spohrer]] from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion)
*** Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project
**** Professor Dogac's work has also been previous [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NhinRfi/ConferenceCall_2005_01_11#nid9DI recommended by] [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ
*** Peter also suggested that we should invite [http://informatik.uibk.ac.at/~dieter/ Dieter Fensel] to talk to us some time
**** Bill: one more suggestion [[BarrySmith|Barry Smith]]
**** Peter: [[PatHayes|Pat Hayes]], [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]], [[DeborahMcGuinness]]

* Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months
** [[User:DavidWhitten|David Whitten]]: maybe we should designate a moderator, and then coordinate the event from there, in a fashion similar to speaker events.
** no discussion session for July 2005
** August 25, 2005 discussion session - moderator: [[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]] - subject: Healthcare Informatics
*** candidate panelists: [[BobSmith|Bob Smith]], Mark Musen, [[MarcWine|Marc Wine]], [[User:DavidWhitten|David Whitten]], [[ChrisChute|Chris Chute]], ... people from within and without the community
*** Rex and Bob will have a phone conference to work out some of the details
*** Peter to set up a skeleton session page, Rex will fill in the content
** more work/discussion on OWL
*** Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
** [[NicolasRouquette|Nicolas Rouquette]] -- topics lined up?
** Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up
** WSMO (Web Service Modeling Ontology), and possibly also, SWSF (Semantic Web Services Framework) - as proposed by [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]] / [[NicolasRouquette|Nicolas Rouquette]] / [[PeterBrown|Peter Brown]] - ref. thread that started with http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-06/msg00017.html
*** candidate panelists:
**** John Domingue of the Knowledge Media Institute at the Open University in the UK, who presented in Innsbruck - suggested by [[PeterBrown|Peter Brown]] - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-06/msg00039.html
**** reference: John Domingue's slides from the presentation at the recent W3C workshop on frameworks for semantics in web services, available at: http://www.w3.org/2005/04/FSWS/Submissions/1/wsmo_v10.pdf
**** WSMO WG website - http://www.wsmo.org
**** SDK cluster - 3 fairly large EU-based project
***** currently lots of funding in Europe for semantic web work (and funding in US has just ended), therefore expecting new work to come from Europe
**** three different viewpoints now - OWL/S, SWSI - FLOWS, and WSMO viewpoints - probably a bit early to talk about standardization
*** let's work with John Domingue toward a Oct 2005 panel discussion, with the 3 above viewpoints represented
**** John: will do ... but don't expect consensus at the end of the session ... (we understand)
*** ref. our 2005.06.30 discussion session, [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]] (who has been working on FLOWS and SWSF) indicated that this will be a session he will like to participate in too.
*** suggest [[NicolasRouquette|Nicolas Rouquette]] to be our moderator for this session
*** we will not schedule a technical discussion in Sep. 2005
*** candidates for November, 2005
**** Rex: propose "Emergency Response"
**** Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.
**** Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion
**** Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)
***** Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, etc.

* Upcoming Events of interest
** Aug. 16, 12005 - Collaborative Expedition Woirkshop #43 (NSF)
** Sep. 14, 2005 - 2nd DRM Public Forum (Washington DC) (Rex, Peter)
** Sep. 12~16, 2005 - UN/CEFACT Forum - (Lyon, France) (Anders, Bill, Duane)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues

* Regular call time revisited: - will discuss in this session - ref: [[RegularConferenceCall]]
** open discussion in progress (comments invited); will deliberate after end June 2005 (allowing W3C SWBPD to decide on their regular call time first.
** [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]] also indicated last week (during the 2005.06.30 session) that our Thursday call time conflicts with that of the SWSF WG call schedule too.
** SteveRay/2005.07.18 - "Input on alternative Ontolog meeting times: I would be able to attend at least some of the Ontolog meetings if they were held on any of: Monday, Tuesday or Friday PM. Cheers, Steve"
** '''consensus is to keep the current time for now''' (sorry, Scott, Steve & Michael; let's see what else we can do ... =ppy)
*** Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in this exercise

6) Follow-ups from previous calls

* Note of thanks to [[AndersTell|Anders Tell]] for presenting a wonderful synthesis of the eBusiness collaboration and ontological landscape

* call/meeting to be scheduled with UN/CEFACT-CCTS WG to review Ontolog's comments [attn: [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]] - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_03_10#nid5JB]

* possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by MikeDaconta) [attn: DuaneNickull]

7) Current Project Status Report

* Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work - item skipped
** Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)
** Formalization issues
** UBL Liaison update
** [CCT-Rep] status report

* Status of Protege-KIF project work

* status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
** AHIC Nomination
** Aug. 5, 2005 deadline to submit a one pager.
** [[BobSmith|Bob Smith]] will draft what we plan to submit and post for community review
*** if no additional comments, that will get submitted

* UBL liaison report

* SICoP liaison report
** [[MarcWine|Marc Wine]] (BrandNiemann & [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] will join in too) will be meeting with HHS Mon 2005.07.25
** [[BobSmith|Bob Smith]]: how about the DRM and its Data Sharing Toolkit and associated processes? (as presented at the Collaborative Expedition Workshop 2005.07.19)
*** ref: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/DesigningTheDRM_DataVisibility_2005_07_19#nid2TQP

* status report from Planning team
** there won't be a planning session after this call

8) project work session / discussion

* VistA-Ontolog collaboration potential:
** Open Source set-aside contract (1 of 6) - ref RexBrook's post: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2005-07/msg00006.html
** we'll hope to get some progress in Rex's discussion session in Aug. 25, 2005

9) New project proposals

* Brand suggests we work with Rex Brooks to review the Broadstrokes group pilot, from an ontologists perspective
** Rex, Bob, Peter to talk this over after the call today

* topic map of interest; scheduling conflicts; ... etc.
** Nicolas: complementary activities between Ontolog and SICoP
*** Bob: we could bring this up at our planning session
** potential new project with Nicolas, Bob and Kurt leading
** See: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologDiscussion/TaggingForumForMatchingInterestsWithinCompatibleSchedule

10) Sponsorship and funding - ITEM SKIPPED

11) Other business

12) Next meeting date and adjourn

* call adjourned 11:50am am PDT
* next call will be on Thu 2005.07.28 starting at 10:30 am PDT

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